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    Really? I don't recall that.... Do you remember what book that was in? JSA, Justice Society, or JSA All-Stars? Because I honestly can't remember that happening, but my memory has been known to be a little faulty.
    It was their first arc on the book (before the split). 30 villains had teamed up to beat on them, and succeeded. The JSA bounced back, and the newbie Dr. Fate simply whipped up a spell to put nearly the entire gang to sleep.

    JSA, while the best book in comics for a good chunk of time, had a LOT of issues with "I Win" powers on the top end, with Fate, Alan Scott and Jakeem Thunder all on the same team. Each of them had basic Magic Powers (though Scott still fought mainly as a GL would).
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    It was Power Girl's group, so it might have been JSA All Stars or whatever her side-group was. Some big collection of villains showed up and initially had the JSA in trouble, but I forget if Fate showed up and bluffed them into submission or cast a sleep spell to knock them all out. Fate did something similar during OW@W, where he just 'unzipped the molecules' of a bunch of robots the team were fighting because he felt they were wasting time.

    I guess I'll have to be a voice of dissension on the animated Dr. Strange movie, because I didn't like the film overall. Some bits were okay, but for the most part it felt like someone had re-skinned a kung fu film as a Dr. Strange. There was just too much martial arts in that movie, and before you start checking me for green blood, I've said that about other films like Resident Evil Apocalypse (amongst other things I said about that movie). So between the out of place kung fu and the dragging pace of the film, I just didn't like it at all.

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    Justice/Marvel Boy



    A Telekinetic who's NOT an Omega-Level Telepath??? What the frick, Marvel!

    JUSTICE (Vance Astrovik, aka Marvel Boy, Manglin' John Mahoney)
    Created By:
    Don Heck & Gerry Conway
    First Appearance: Giant-Size Defenders #5 (July 1975)
    Role: Plucky Rookie, Proving Himself Guy
    Group Affiliations: The Avengers, The New Warriors, The Initiative, The Unlimited Class Wrestling Federation
    Avengers Grade: C-Level
    PL 10 (150)
    STRENGTH
    2 STAMINA 3 AGILITY 3
    FIGHTING 8 DEXTERITY 3
    INTELLIGENCE 2 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE 2

    Skills:
    Acrobatics 2 (+5)
    Deception 5 (+7)
    Expertise (Superhero Trainer) 6 (+8)
    Perception 6 (+8)
    Insight 5 (+7)
    Investigation 4 (+6)
    Ranged Combat (TK Burst) 1 (+11)
    Stealth 3 (+6)
    Technology 4 (+6)
    Vehicles 4 (+6)

    Advantages:
    Improved Disarm, Improved Initiative, Improved Smash, Improved Trip, Interpose, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 7, Set-Up, Teamwork

    Powers:
    "Telekinesis"
    "Multi-Grab" Snare 8 (Extras: Area- Shapeable) (Flaws: Touch Range) (24) -- [29]
    • AE: Move Object 8 (Feats: Precise) (17)
      AE: "TK Burst" Blast 8 (16)
      AE: Snare 8 (24)
      AE: "Lie Detector" Enhanced Skills 8: Insight 8 (Flaws: Limited to Touching With Tendril) (2)
      AE: Force Field +0 (Feats: Increased Mass 3) (Extras: Affects Others, Impervious) (17)

    Flight 6 (120 mph) [12]
    Force Field 7 [7]

    Offense:
    Unarmed +8 (+2 Damage, DC 17)
    TK Burst +11 (+8 Damage, DC 23)
    Snare +10 (+8 Ranged Affliction, DC 18)
    Multi-Grab +8 Area (+8 Affliction, DC 18)
    Initiative +3

    Defenses:
    Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +9 (DC 19), Toughness +3 (+10 Force Field, +4 Impervious), Fortitude +7, Will +7

    Complications:
    Relationship (Firestar, Ultra Girl)- Vance was with Angelica Jones for a number of years, from New Warriors to Avengers, but they split up
    Guilt (Killed his Father)
    Responsibility (Unsure of Himself)

    Total: Abilities: 50 / Skills: 40--20 / Advantages: 15 / Powers: 48 / Defenses: 17 (150)

    -Justice formed the other half of "Firestar and..." and fulfilled the "Kyle Rayner" role in the Avengers. The career-long dork, "Marvel Boy" started out as a kid who ran out on an abusive home, but returned to try to make good. He was a supporting character in The Thing's series, helping him out on missions while a part of the WWF-inspired Unlimited Class Wrestling Federation. Justice had been rejected by the Avengers early-on (as Marvel Boy) before being recruited by Night Thrasher for the New Warriors. He was basically the "Blue Chipper" of the squad, acting the most like a solid, polite, dependable, classic Super-Hero amidst a team of train wrecks (the moody, obsessive Thrash, childish Speedball, dumbass Nova, flighty Namorita & shy Firestar). During this time, he finally fought back against his abusive father, in a shocking moment that ended with the old man's death. This started a long arc on the book in which Vance served jail time.

    -By the end of that book, he'd "upgraded" to a higher level, joining the big leagues, but not before doing the requisite "I was once a competent hero on my own team, but now I'm a giant doofus who's nervous all the time" act, shared by other luminaries such as Cannonball, as he'd joined The Avengers on the Busiek/Perez super-update. I felt that Morrison's Kyle Rayner saved that character, turning a Replacement Scrappy into an iconic "New guy in over his head", but Justice didn't QUITE pull it off as effectively- partially it was his relative unimportance as a character, and partially it was the fact that he vanished utterly from continuity for YEARS after "making it". Reading many of the issues from this run, they basically beat you over the head with the fact that Vance is over-eager and a screw-up every single issue, whereas with Kyle it was a lot more in random asides and the occasional comment here or there. In short, Busiek sorta over-did it. Though that scene where he figures out Ultron's weakness because he was sitting at home injured (acting like an idiot and getting injured by his teammate Black Knight) was pretty cool.

    -After that, Justice basically fell off the face of the Earth, disappearing with Firestar into investigating the Triune Understanding, then basically entering Marvel Limbo. Then... they split up. The whole Justice/Firestar break-up... that just bugs me. Sure, the pair were kind of hampered by the fact that every team seemingly had to buy them as a couple only, but come on- would it kill the writers to not have to create artificial angst? This is yet another example of Comic Book Relationship Never Work Out, as the only way writers could think of to deal with the couple was to break them up. The problem? Both are rather generic heroes without each other- the Young Married Couple would actually be WAY more unique and interesting than "Brave Hero Guy With Telekinesis" and "Brave Hero Girl With Fire Powers", though it's pretty rare to see someone with JUST Telekinesis at Marvel. He's since hooked up with boring background character Ultra Girl, but she's totally forgettable. He was a minor character in both The Initiative and Avengers Academy, somehow getting permanently-marked as "That guy who trains rookie heroes", which is a bit odd... but at least it's something.

    -Justice is a reasonably good PL 9.5 character, a notch below the elite Avengers, but not by too much- he's come into his own as a powerful character on occasion, and few guys make better team players. He's defined by his Array, allowing him to Snare, Grab a whole group of people at once (in a Shapeable Area), detect lies with a tendril touching someone (it's on Wikipedia, it MUST be true! Those people check facts constantly!), Blasts, and can modify his existing Force Field with numerous Extras, allowing him to guard teammates. He can usually only do one thing at once, but his main Force Field hangs outside the Array.



    MARVEL BOY (Vance Astrovik)
    Created By:
    Don Heck & Gerry Conway
    First Appearance: Giant-Size Defenders #5 (July 1975)
    Role: Plucky Rookie, Proving Himself Guy
    Group Affiliations: The Avengers, The New Warriors, The Initiative, The Unlimited Class Wrestling Federation
    PL 9 (128)
    STRENGTH
    2 STAMINA 3 AGILITY 3
    FIGHTING 7 DEXTERITY 3
    INTELLIGENCE 2 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE 1

    Skills:
    Acrobatics 2 (+5)
    Deception 4 (+5)
    Perception 5 (+6)
    Insight 4 (+6)
    Investigation 2 (+4)
    Stealth 2 (+5)
    Technology 2 (+4)
    Vehicles 5 (+7)
    Advantages:
    Improved Disarm, Improved Smash, Improved Trip, Interpose, Ranged Attack 6, Set-Up, Teamwork 2

    Powers:
    "Telekinesis"
    "Multi-Grab" Snare 8 (Extras: Area- Shapeable) (Flaws: Touch Range) (24) -- [29]
    • AE: Move Object 8 (Feats: Precise) (17)
      AE: "TK Burst" Blast 8 (16)
      AE: Snare 8 (24)
      AE: "Lie Detector" Enhanced Skills 8: Insight 8 (Flaws: Limited to Touching With Tendril) (2)
      AE: Force Field +0 (Feats: Increased Mass 3) (Extras: Affects Others) (8)

    Flight 5 (61 mph) [10]
    Force Field 5 [5]
    Offense:
    Unarmed +7 (+2 Damage, DC 17)
    TK Burst +9 (+8 Damage, DC 23)
    Snare +9 (+8 Ranged Affliction, DC 18)
    Multi-Grab +8 Area (+8 Affliction, DC 18)
    Initiative +3

    Defenses:
    Dodge +9 (DC 19), Parry +8 (DC 18), Toughness +3 (+8 Force Field), Fortitude +6, Will +6

    Complications:
    Relationship (Firestar)
    Guilt (Killed his Father)
    Responsibility (Unsure of Himself)

    Total: Abilities: 44 / Skills: 26--13 / Advantages: 13 / Powers: 44 / Defenses: 15 (129)

    -New Warriors-era Marvel Boy was a capable team player, but not up to his later levels, obviously. He lacks an Impervious Force Field, is slower, and less accurate overall.
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    The Sentry




    But seriously, what's with the girdle?

    THE SENTRY (Robert Reynolds)
    Created By:
    Paul Jenkins, Jae Lee & Rick Veitch
    First Appearance: The Sentry #1 (Sept. 2000)
    Role: The Wesley (writers love him, fans hate him), Supermanalogue, Flying Brick, Top-Tier Guy
    Group Affiliations: The Avengers, The Triune Understanding, The Skrull Kill Krew, The Agents of Atlas
    Avengers Grade: B-Level (powerful, but crazy)
    PL 15 (275)
    STRENGTH
    19 STAMINA 18 AGILITY 3
    FIGHTING 8 DEXTERITY 0
    INTELLIGENCE 1 AWARENESS -2 PRESENCE -2

    Skills:
    Intimidation 16 (+14)
    Perception 6 (+4)
    Ranged Combat (Radiation) 4 (+10)

    Advantages:
    All-Out Attack, Attractive, Crushing Pin, Improved Grab, Interpose, Move-By Action, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 6, Takedown

    Powers:
    "The Power of a Million Exploding Suns"
    Power Lifting 5 (800,000 tons) [5]

    Impervious Toughness 21 [21]
    Immunity 11 (Aging, Life Support) [11]
    Super-Senses 8 (Extended Hearing 5, Microvision, Analytical Vision 2) [8]
    Regeneration 10 [10]

    "Power of a Million Exploding Suns"
    "Radiation Control" Blast 19 (Feats: Split, Improved Critical 2, Penetrating 7) (48) -- [58]
    • AE: Damage 15 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst, Penetrating) (45)
      AE: Environment 5 (Light) (10)
      AE: Dazzle Visuals 13 (Extras: Area-Burst) (Flaws: Touch Range) (26)
      AE: Healing 10 (Extras: Resurrection) (30)
      "Super-Strength Feats"
      AE: "Thunderclap" Dazzle Hearing 12 (Extras: Area- 60ft. Burst +2) (Flaws: Touch Range, Distracting) (24)
      AE: "Groundstrike" Affliction 15 (Dodge; Hindered/Prone) (Extras: Area- 120ft. Burst +3) (Flaws: Limited Degree, Instant Recovery, Limited to Ground) Linked to Damage 12 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (Flaws: Limited to Objects) (25)
      AE: "Groundstrike Line" Affliction 15 (Dodge; Hindered/Prone) (Extras: Area- 120ft. Line +3) (Flaws: Limited Degree, Instant Recovery, Limited to Ground) Linked to Damage 10 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (Flaws: Limited to Objects) (25)
      AE: "Shockwave" Damage 15 (Extras: Area- 60ft. Burst +2) (Flaws: Both Grounded) (30)
      AE: "Super-Breath" Move Object 14 (Extras: Area- 120ft. Cone +2) (Flaws: Limited to One Direction) (28)
      AE: Penetrating Strength Damage 15 (15)

    Flight 14 (32,000 mph) (Feats: Dynamic) (29) -- [33]
    • Dynamic AE: "Super-Speed" Speed 8 & Quickness 8 (17)
      Dynamic AE: Deflect (Ranged Projectiles) 12 (13)

    Movement 2 (Space Travel 2) [4]

    Offense:
    Unarmed +8 (+19 Damage, DC 34)
    Radiation Control +10 (+19 Ranged Damage, DC 34)
    Radiation +15 Area (+15 Damage, DC 30)
    Super-Strength Feats +15 (+15 Affliction, DC 25)
    Initiative +3

    Defenses:
    Dodge +8 (DC 18), Parry +8 (DC 18), Toughness +18 (+11 Impervious), Fortitude +18, Will +5

    Complications:
    Normal Identity (Robert Reynolds)- Robert occasionally loses the Sentry's power.
    Enemy (The Void)- Who is actually Robert.
    Relationship (Wife)
    Involuntary Transformation (The Void)
    Vulnerable (Mental Attacks & Control)

    Total: Abilities: 90 / Skills: 26--13 / Advantages: 14 / Powers: 146 / Defenses: 12 (275)

    -There are many terrible characters throughout the history of comic books, but only a few can boast the fact that their sheer shittiness can destroy EVERY story in which they find themselves. Among them is Robert Reynolds, The Sentry.

    -The Sentry's most interesting point is the "hoax" creation, where he was supposed to be Stan Lee's "Lost" Marvel hero of the early '60s, who he just never got around to using because of his power levels. It turned out to be Marvel & Wizard hyping the crap out of his Limited Series run, and it seemed to work for the most part, even once the reveal came out. Now, plenty of comics fans know who Sentry is. Trouble is, very few like him. If it was JUST the limited series or two, it'd have been fine, but now Marvel basically suddenly had a GIANT Superman rip-off appearing in books on a regular basis, overpowering every team, and generally just being a lame character whose main job is to throw tantrums and whine about how much his life sucks, while showing off how powerful he is. Unfortunately, the writers just LOVE having a full-time Supermanalogue. For some reason, writers are FASCINATED with Supes, so even while his books tend not to sell that great, he inundates all the other books. I hate The Sentry.

    -The Sentry's some dude who was the "Greatest Hero Ever" in the old days (great pals with Reed Richards & the Hulk, helped out Spider-Man, slept with Rogue), but upon discovering that he and his enemy The Void were two sides of the same person, the memories of everyone on Earth had to be wiped (including his own), leaving him forgotten. Unfortunately, Brian Michael Bendis decided to make him a central character in his Avengers update- it was a true Superteam, sure (adding Spidey & Wolverine to the Cap & Iron Man backbone of the team, then sticking in a high-profile minority and female character with links to his fave books from the '70s), but adding the most powerful hero in the Marvel Universe was frought with peril. Reading summations of Sentry's history are that lethal combination of Excessively Complex and Utterly Boring- he got a ton of Origin Stories, acted like a loon, was revealed to have been a drug addict, and more. He also showed up in Mighty Avengers and as a charter crazy member of Norman Osborn's Dark Avengers.

    -The Sentry dominated the plotlines of many books, had some Resurrection nonsense going on (even his wife sorta did this), ran headlong into danger with crazy showings of power that had terrible consequences, and eventually went full-blown crazy after Bullseye murdered his wife and the "Siege of Asgard" (arguably the worst and most pointless of Marvel's Events- it made ABSOLUTELY ZERO SENSE for Osborn to risk his job and life in this idiotic manner- it was like they couldn't figure out how to end Dark Reign, so they just had Norman act like an idiot to undo it)- he murdered Ares (who fans were getting to like) and was himself slain by Thor, then cremated in the Sun. He recently re-appeared as one of the Dark Horsemen in Uncanny Avengers, but un-crazied and did some heroic stuff before disappearing.

    -People like The Sentry just... DOMINATE their stories. You can't simply ignore or avoid someone who's that insanely powerful AND crazy- he either starts ranting openly, or he just pulls a "Goku" and wipes out the enemy because he's the best. It's irritating- at least with MOST awful characters you can simply ignore them or get issues where they're not so omnipresent, but not so with The Sentry. Add in the fact that it seems like Marvel Writers are just jealous of DC for having Superman and wanting to do "Superman Stuff" with him, and you've got something worse- I consider it a GREAT ADVANTAGE that Marvel never really had a "Superman"- that One True Powerhouse above all others, to whom everyone looked at as some kind of paragon. Marvel was grittier and things were more of a broad level, rather than so focused on one guy. The Sentry ruined all that.

    -What's scariest about this build is that it's modern-day, emo & whiny, low-Will Save Retard Sentry, and not the 'elite' Silver Age version. Yeah, his CRAPPY version takes up 287 points. He's got pretty much all sorts of damaging effects, and more power than any build I've done in 3e aside from the uber-Hulks and Cosmic Beings. He's just extra powerful all around, and really boring to build. Flying Bricks like this are generally easy to stat, given that they're so generic that EVERYONE'S done enough builds of them to make half this crap default. *yawn* Next build.

    The Void contains some additions to The Sentry's moveset:
    Morph 4 [20]
    "Shapeshift" Variable 10 (Includes Massive Strength & Blast Boosts) [70]
    "Infini-Tendrils" Blast 16 (Extras: Will Damage) [48]
    Plus maybe some Weather Control-type stuff. As a whole, The Void is likely PL 18 or something insane like that- he can hold off dozens of superhumans at once, has beaten The Hulk in seconds, and is basically unstoppable.

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    Did you mention that this big ol' douche is also unnecessary? Really...I rarely engage in the "if I were in charge of (insert name of comic company here), I would (insert dictum here)", because what it mostly ends up being is a fanboy assertion that despite the fact that even if you've managed to solicit the companies through the proper channels your idea was just too dumb to be considered, BUT, if it was up to me, there would be an editorial edict against using this waste of a character. With at least 3 Hyperions, Gladiator, and probably a couple others running around, Marvel has more than enough half decent Supermanalogues that adding one this messed up is just not needed.

    Or wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabroniville View Post
    -There are many terrible characters throughout the history of comic books, but only a few can boast the fact that their sheer shittiness can destroy EVERY story in which they find themselves. Among them is Robert Reynolds, The Sentry.

    -The Sentry's most interesting point is the "hoax" creation, where he was supposed to be Stan Lee's "Lost" Marvel hero of the early '60s, who he just never got around to using because of his power levels. It turned out to be Marvel & Wizard hyping the crap out of his Limited Series run, and it seemed to work for the most part, even once the reveal came out. Now, plenty of comics fans know who Sentry is. Trouble is, very few like him. If it was JUST the limited series or two, it'd have been fine, but now Marvel basically suddenly had a GIANT Superman rip-off appearing in books on a regular basis, overpowering every team, and generally just being a lame character whose main job is to throw tantrums and whine about how much his life sucks, while showing off how powerful he is. Unfortunately, the writers just LOVE having a full-time Supermanalogue. For some reason, writers are FASCINATED with Supes, so even while his books tend not to sell that great, he inundates all the other books. I hate The Sentry.

    -The Sentry's some dude who was the "Greatest Hero Ever" in the old days (great pals with Reed Richards & the Hulk, helped out Spider-Man, slept with Rogue), but upon discovering that he and his enemy The Void were two sides of the same person, the memories of everyone on Earth had to be wiped (including his own), leaving him forgotten. Unfortunately, Brian Michael Bendis decided to make him a central character in his Avengers update- it was a true Superteam, sure (adding Spidey & Wolverine to the Cap & Iron Man backbone of the team, then sticking in a high-profile minority and female character with links to his fave books from the '70s), but adding the most powerful hero in the Marvel Universe was frought with peril. Reading summations of Sentry's history are that lethal combination of Excessively Complex and Utterly Boring- he got a ton of Origin Stories, acted like a loon, was revealed to have been a drug addict, and more. He also showed up in Mighty Avengers and as a charter crazy member of Norman Osborn's Dark Avengers.

    -The Sentry dominated the plotlines of many books, had some Resurrection nonsense going on (even his wife sorta did this), ran headlong into danger with crazy showings of power that had terrible consequences, and eventually went full-blown crazy after Bullseye murdered his wife and the "Siege of Asgard" (arguably the worst and most pointless of Marvel's Events- it made ABSOLUTELY ZERO SENSE for Osborn to risk his job and life in this idiotic manner- it was like they couldn't figure out how to end Dark Reign, so they just had Norman act like an idiot to undo it)- he murdered Ares (who fans were getting to like) and was himself slain by Thor, then cremated in the Sun. He recently re-appeared as one of the Dark Horsemen in Uncanny Avengers, but un-crazied and did some heroic stuff before disappearing.

    -People like The Sentry just... DOMINATE their stories. You can't simply ignore or avoid someone who's that insanely powerful AND crazy- he either starts ranting openly, or he just pulls a "Goku" and wipes out the enemy because he's the best. It's irritating- at least with MOST awful characters you can simply ignore them or get issues where they're not so omnipresent, but not so with The Sentry. Add in the fact that it seems like Marvel Writers are just jealous of DC for having Superman and wanting to do "Superman Stuff" with him, and you've got something worse- I consider it a GREAT ADVANTAGE that Marvel never really had a "Superman"- that One True Powerhouse above all others, to whom everyone looked at as some kind of paragon. Marvel was grittier and things were more of a broad level, rather than so focused on one guy. The Sentry ruined all that.

    -What's scariest about this build is that it's modern-day, emo & whiny, low-Will Save Retard Sentry, and not the 'elite' Silver Age version. Yeah, his CRAPPY version takes up 287 points. He's got pretty much all sorts of damaging effects, and more power than any build I've done in 3e aside from the uber-Hulks and Cosmic Beings. He's just extra powerful all around, and really boring to build. Flying Bricks like this are generally easy to stat, given that they're so generic that EVERYONE'S done enough builds of them to make half this crap default. *yawn* Next build.
    To me the key point of modern Superman is that he's a being that could easily be god, but choose to be human instead. In spite of this you can see that Clark choice to fight the good fight has nothing to do with his powers, they just allowed him to do things in much larger scale.
    Sentry pretty much takes this concept and shit all over it. There's nothing in Sentry -- as he was in the main continuity -- that looked even remotely heroic to me. He was weak-willed and whiny and he survived only by grace of his powers, which is exactly the opposite of what a heroic character should be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Horsenhero View Post
    Did you mention that this big ol' douche is also unnecessary? Really...I rarely engage in the "if I were in charge of (insert name of comic company here), I would (insert dictum here)", because what it mostly ends up being is a fanboy assertion that despite the fact that even if you've managed to solicit the companies through the proper channels your idea was just too dumb to be considered, BUT, if it was up to me, there would be an editorial edict against using this waste of a character. With at least 3 Hyperions, Gladiator, and probably a couple others running around, Marvel has more than enough half decent Supermanalogues that adding one this messed up is just not needed.

    Or wanted.
    As Jab pointed out, even if Marvel has many Supermananalogues (the original Hyperion from the '80s Squadron Supreme mini by Mark Gruenwald is my favorite), none of them really amounted much in the main continuity. Given that, I agree with your assessment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodclaw View Post
    Sentry pretty much takes this concept and shit all over it. There's nothing in Sentry -- as he was in the main continuity -- that looked even remotely heroic to me. He was weak-willed and whiny and he survived only by grace of his powers, which is exactly the opposite of what a heroic character should be.
    Which is how they portrayed Superman in Superman II.

    Take Sentry and Blue Marvel and toss em in the trash. I can't abide retcontinuity.

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    Deathcry



    "Deathcry was a character who I knew nothing about until we started talking in the room about who we could use in the series (Chaos War: Avengers). She was terrific in Annihilation: Conquest, and that's definitely the incarnation of the character I'm going to be using. To me, her real name should be "The '90s" because she's the classic stereotypical bad girl with cleavage and a shitty attitude. She's a Shi'Ar who may or may not be descended from the X-Men villain Deathbird. So she's a female, berserker, bird person with crazy hair, which means she's awesome."
    -Fred Van Lente


    DEATHCRY (Sharra Neramani)
    Created By:
    Bob Harras & Steve Epting
    First Appearance: The Avengers #363 (June 1993)
    Role: Badass '90s Anti-Hero, The Scrappy
    Group Affiliations: The Avengers, The Shi'ar Empire
    Avengers Grade: E-Level
    PL 8 (107)
    STRENGTH
    6 STAMINA 6 AGILITY 5
    FIGHTING 9 DEXTERITY 2
    INTELLIGENCE 1 AWARENESS 1 PRESENCE 0

    Skills:
    Acrobatics 5 (+10)
    Athletics 2 (+8)
    Close Combat (Unarmed) 1 (+10)
    Expertise (Shi'ar Warrior) 6 (+7)
    Intimidation 8 (+8)
    Investigation 4 (+5)
    Perception 7 (+8)
    Sleight of Hand 1 (+3)
    Stealth 3 (+8)
    Technology 4 (+5)
    Vehicles 7 (+8)
    *
    Advantages:
    All-Out Attack, Fast Grab, Move-By Action, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 6, Startle, Takedown

    Powers:
    "Shi'ar Senses" Senses 4 (Extended & Low-Light Vision, Extended Hearing, Acute Scent) [4]

    Leaping 1 (15 feet) [1]
    "Talons" Strength-Damage +1 [1]

    Offense:
    Unarmed +10 (+6 Damage, DC 21)
    Talons +9 (+7 Damage, DC 22)
    Initiative +3

    Defenses:
    Dodge +10 (DC 20), Parry +9 (DC 19), Toughness +6, Fortitude +8, Will +4

    Complications:
    Enemy (The Kree)
    Responsibility (The Shi'ar Empire)
    Secret (Name)- Deathcry's name was not revealed until years after her death- she is the niece of Empress Lilandra.

    Total: Abilities: 58 / Skills: 48--24 / Advantages: 12 / Powers: 6 / Defenses: 7 (107)

    -Hey, it's a purple chick in a skimpy outfit with claws and a bad attitude! I wonder in which decade SHE was created!

    -In any case, Deathcry sucks for the reasons outlined above (most generic character ever), and the fact that she was sent to be a "protector" to the Avengers, despite being weaker than virtually all of them. She was always all "Rarr attack first, questions later!" and was just FURIOUSLY similar to every other '90s character, to the point where she's either completely forgotten (I'm pretty sure she wasn't in the Wikipedia list of Avengers), or bitched about as the most hated member. She was casually written out of the book despite not really protecting the team all that much, and vanished for about ten years. Until a few years ago, when she was part of Star-Lord's book in Annihilation, at which point she was hilariously and casually vaporized as she flipped out on her team-mate Captain Universe, who then vaporized her. Now THAT is how you deal with a character who sucks.

    -And yes, she is a shining case of Red Guardian Syndrome, as I have seen at least ONE internet fanboy who DECRIED her death, and loved the character (one of the guys who does all those Handbook-type entries, or at least someone who wrote in as a comment). He was like "I was not thrilled, to put it mildly, that Deathcry was brought back for the sole purpose of being killed, especially in such a stupid manner", then a sad addition that he is apparently the only person on the internet who feels that way.

    -Standard PL 8, really. I don't view her as being cool enough to be PL 9, so she can suck it. She's not bad with her claws, but that's really the only way she's really good. Kind of a mini Brick/Scrapper.
    Last edited by Jabroniville; 10-27-2014 at 11:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastation Bob View Post
    Which is how they portrayed Superman in Superman II.

    Take Sentry and Blue Marvel and toss em in the trash. I can't abide retcontinuity.
    Blue Marvel, from what I've seen of him, works better for me.

    If only because the reaction of other characters tends to be, "Hey, Blue Marvel. He's a stand up guy." He's treated as a cool guy who did some awesome stuff in the past, but doesn't hang out much these days. Helped by most of his adventures taking place in eras before the Marvel Sliding time scale. He's your dad's superhero.

    While the Sentry had everyone constantly talking about how awesome he was. How he made them better people. And they kept doing this even after he nearly destroyed the planet on multiple occasions.

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    Re: Jab's Builds!

    Quote Originally Posted by Devastation Bob View Post
    Which is how they portrayed Superman in Superman II.

    Take Sentry and Blue Marvel and toss em in the trash. I can't abide retcontinuity.
    As much as I love Richard Donner's work on Superman, I would prefer to keep movie/TV adaptations out of the equation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yeoman View Post
    Blue Marvel, from what I've seen of him, works better for me.

    If only because the reaction of other characters tends to be, "Hey, Blue Marvel. He's a stand up guy." He's treated as a cool guy who did some awesome stuff in the past, but doesn't hang out much these days. Helped by most of his adventures taking place in eras before the Marvel Sliding time scale. He's your dad's superhero.

    While the Sentry had everyone constantly talking about how awesome he was. How he made them better people. And they kept doing this even after he nearly destroyed the planet on multiple occasions.
    This is the other bit that made me hate the whole Sentry deal: the in-universe hype. Some people told me that it was a strategy to keep Void from resurfacing, but I honestly think it was utter BS.
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