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    Re: Jab's Builds!

    "Mobile-friendly - "No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will cramp his style." - Steven Brust

    However, it is a children's cartoon. That sort of limits the options.

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    Re: Jab's Builds!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyborgsamurai View Post
    I always thought it was a touch odd that Avatar-verse managed to somehow skip gunpowder and move directly to tasers and giant mecha. I just chalked it up to the fact that this show is all about the mystical martial arts and, much like in real life, guns would make all the super cool martial arts a lot less relevant.
    Which is kinda sad. Would have been interesting to see the world adapt. Suddenly, all but the top 1% of benders are just as useful in combat as anyone that can carry a tommy gun. If not less. So they take their talents to more mundane uses, Earth Benders doing construction and mining, Water bender healers, firebenders doing steel work.

    Would make even more sense that the elite police force are the metal benders.

    Quote Originally Posted by Batgirl III View Post
    "Mobile-friendly - "No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will cramp his style." - Steven Brust

    However, it is a children's cartoon. That sort of limits the options.
    Less than you think. You can get away with non-realistic firearms in children's cartoons. It's why Batman: TAS used tommy guns.
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    Re: Jab's Builds!

    I don't think they would have Tommy guns. It is a pretty complex piece of hardware both the gun itself and the bullets. Early muskets would do. That is the advantage of a gun over any other weapon. It takes years of practice and physical conditioning to be a competent bender, archer, fencer, etc. You can teach almost anybody to load and fire a gun in a day. March and drill takes a couple weeks.

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    Re: Jab's Builds!

    Well there is one problem with going to guns, as per the way it was done in the real world.

    Namely that it started off with people packing around pouches explosive powders. Something that's probably going to get enough people killed by firebenders that they'd probably give the idea up before it became a viable weapon.

    I honestly don't remember, but I don't think metal bending can be done without a touch range, right? Because that would mess them up a bit too.


    But, most importantly, the introduction of guns would really make the benders kind of pointless and take away the fun of having benders.

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    Re: Jab's Builds!

    You have to remember that before smokeless powder that battlefields got very smokey and visibility very low after the first or second volley. That will cut down on the effectiveness of Benders a bit. The real revolution like I said earlier the thread is field artillery.

    Since the invention of gunpowder, field artillery has claimed by far the most lives in actual combat. Part of Napoleon's success was that he loved field artillery so he made sure he had more of it and more experienced crews than anybody else.

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    Re: Jab's Builds!

    Quote Originally Posted by Yeoman View Post
    Less than you think. You can get away with non-realistic firearms in children's cartoons. It's why Batman: TAS used tommy guns.
    Tommy guns are non-realistic? I own one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batgirl III View Post
    Tommy guns are non-realistic? I own one!
    Well, it isn't so much "non-realistic guns" being the rule- it's "Imitate-able Actions" or some such legalese. Since a kid can't just go to his parents' gun-closet/safe/whatever and just pick up a TOMMY GUN, it doesn't count to the censors the same way daddy's pistol, rifle or shotgun would.

    Same reason was why the '90s Spider-Man cartoon used LASER WEAPONS. Even the COPS had them!

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    Ghazan




    GHAZAN
    Role:
    Elite Earthbending Menace, The Snarky One
    Voice Actor: Peter Giles
    Finest Moment: Demolished the walls of Ba Sing Se, and an entire Mountain, using Lavabending.
    PL 10 (284), PL 12 (284) to Objects
    STRENGTH
    3 STAMINA 4 AGILITY 5
    FIGHTING 10 DEXTERITY 2
    INTELLIGENCE 1 AWARENESS 2 PRESENCE 3

    Skills:
    Acrobatics 5 (+10)
    Athletics 7 (+10)
    Close Combat (Unarmed) 2 (+12)
    Deception 4 (+7)
    Expertise (Anarchist) 7 (+8)
    Perception 4 (+6)
    Ranged Combat (Bending) 4 (+12)
    Stealth 1 (+6)
    Vehicles 2 (+4)

    Advantages:
    Diehard, Fast Grab, Improved Critical (Earthbending/Lavabending) 3, Improved Hold, Improved Smash, Power Attack, Ranged Attack 4, Startle, Taunt

    Powers:
    "Earthbending Master"
    "Earth Shields" Enhanced Advantages 2: Defensive Roll 2 [2]
    "One With the Earth" Movement 1 (Sure-Footed) [2]
    "Earth Running" Speed 2 (8 mph) [2]

    "Lavabending & Earthbending Master"
    "Tear the Walls & Mountains Down" Weaken Toughness 12 (Extras: Area- 250ft. Shapeable +4, Progressive +2, Affects Objects Only +0) (Flaws: Limited to Earth & Things Touching It) (72) -- [84]
    • AE: "Lava Star" Blast 8 (Extras: Secondary Effect) (24)
    • AE: "Un-Lavabend" Transform (Lava to Earth) 8 (16)
    • AE: "Lava Wave" Damage 10 (Extras: Area- 60ft. Cone, Secondary Effect 8) (28)
    • AE: "Bonds of Stone" Affliction 8 (Strength; Hindered & Vulnerable/Prone & Defenseless/Paralyzed) (Feats: Split) (Extras: Cumulative, Extra Condition, Ranged) (33)
    • AE: "Earthquake" Damage 10 (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) Linked to Affliction 10 (Strength or Agility; Hindered/Prone) (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (Flaws: Limited Degree) (30)
    • AE: "Stone Shot" Blast 8 (Feats: Split, Precise) (Diminished Range -1) (17)
    • AE: "Super Trip" Affliction 8 (Strength or Agility; Hindered/Prone) (Extras: Ranged) (Flaws: Limited Degree) (8)
    • AE: "Rockalanche" Blast 10 (Feats: Penetrating 5) (Extras: Area- 30ft. Burst) (35)
    • AE: "Stone Spear" Damage 10 (Feats: Penetrating 7) (Extras: Area- 30ft. Line) (27)
    • AE: "Earthbending" Earth Control 10 (Feats: Precise) (21)
    • AE: "Hold Your Ground" Enhanced Strength 4 (Flaws: Limited to Resisting Movement) (4)
    • AE: "Just Stop Earthbending At Him Already!" Deflect 12 (Extras: Reflect) (Flaws: Limited to Earth-Based Attacks) (12)

    "Lava Pool" Damage 10 (Feats: Reach) (Extras: Area- 250ft. Burst +4, Secondary Effect 8, Sustained +2, Selective) (Flaws: Limited to Grounded Targets on Earth) Linked to Environment 4 (Heat 2) [86]

    Offense:
    Unarmed +12 (+3 Damage, DC 18)
    Earth & Lava Attacks +12 (+8 Ranged Damage, DC 23)
    Earthquake +10 Area (+10 Damage & Affliction, DC 25 & 20)
    Area Attacks +10 Area (+10 Damage, DC 25)
    Initiative +5

    Defenses:
    Dodge +12 (DC 22), Parry +13 (DC 23), Toughness +4 (+6 Shields), Fortitude +6, Will +6

    Complications:
    Motivation (Anarchy)- The members of the Red Lotus seek to remove all world leaders from power, to allow people to govern themselves.
    Obsession (Never Going Back To Prison)- Ghazan would rather die than go back to jail, having been their for years.
    Power Loss (Bending)- All Bending requires the use of bodily-movements and forms. If a Bender's body is restrained in any manner, their Bending will be badly-hampered. Full entrapment will neutralize all Bending.
    Power Loss (Earthbending)- The modern world contains way more metal and tall buildings than the old one did- Earthbenders are often at a disadvantage when indoors, lacking access to their element.

    Total: Abilities: 60 / Skills: 36--18 / Advantages: 14 / Powers: 176 / Defenses: 16 (284)

    -Ghazan was the "Snarky One" of the Red Lotus, smirking and making dry remarks about their various goings-on. This made him the most FUN member, but he also became one of the most-LETHAL, as he became the only non-Avatar in the series to have learned LAVABENDING, the art of converting Earth into liquid, burning-hot molten lava! This becomes a complete Game-Breaker in numerous instances, as he's able to control the entire battlefield, tear down nigh-indestructible obstacles (he single-handedly brings down the Inner Walls of Ba Sing Se in MOMENTS), and prevent anybody from getting close to his team. In the end of the season, he demolishes an ENTIRE MOUNTAIN, basically dooming all of Team Avatar, until Bolin is able to learn Lavabending in a crisis moment, and ceases the rampage. In the end, he commits suicide by filling an entire cavern with lava, refusing to go back to prison.

    -Ghazan is one of the most-unique characters in the Avatar-Verse, as his Lavabending makes him a COMPLETELY different kind of fighter. He's your standard Earthbender in some ways (he easily wipes out Dai Li agents by throwing their Rock Gloves right back at them), but then he starts throwing out his Lava Star & Lava Wave (Secondary Effect Damage), wipe out massive structures in moments (+12 Area Weaken Toughness that's Progressive, allowing him to burn down giant walls or even MOUNTAINS with enough saves failed), and worst of all, create a LAVA POOL. This is way more massive and focused than Bolin's tiny one, reaching over a great range, creating a Hot Environment, and being Selective, allowing him to surround his Red Lotus teammates and prevent anyone in Suyin's Town of Metalbenders from getting close (as few Avatar-Verse characters can fly- Lin & Suyin have to drop down from above in order to save the unconscious Korra).

    -With a 283-point Price Tag (thanks to the Lava Pool being Sustained, and therefore outside of the Lava/Earthbending Array), Ghazan is further proof of just how lethal the Red Lotus are. A group of FOUR of them are able to hold off nearly an entire city thanks to their unique combinations of powers. His only weakness is that he's just a standard Bender in close combat- Mako & Bolin (PL 9 & PL 8, respectively) were able to overwhelm him and basically stop his assault by double-teaming him.
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    Re: Jab's Builds!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jabroniville View Post
    Well, it isn't so much "non-realistic guns" being the rule- it's "Imitate-able Actions" or some such legalese. Since a kid can't just go to his parents' gun-closet/safe/whatever and just pick up a TOMMY GUN, it doesn't count to the censors the same way daddy's pistol, rifle or shotgun would.

    Same reason was why the '90s Spider-Man cartoon used LASER WEAPONS. Even the COPS had them!
    Yep, these and other silly rules brought to you by the same sort of folks that would s--- their pants when I tell them my nine-year old daughter has her very own AR-15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabroniville View Post
    That is the most metal thing ever made related to Avatar. And that ended with a 300 foot tall robot.

    I want to buy a van so I can have that painted on the side.
    Last edited by Yeoman; 08-23-2015 at 11:49 PM.

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