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  • Important forum update from nikchick

    I hope that title got everyone's attention.

    For many years now Green Ronin has continued to provide these message boards as a courtesy to our fans even as the costs for continuing to do so have risen. We pay for forum software and secure server space and do our best to be vigilant about spam protections, as well as paying our staff members for their time as they try to engage in a reasonable way. This is not a zero sum, cost-free endeavor but as long as our forum users have been willing to follow our Terms of Service and be generally self-policing, decent people, we've been willing to keep it up.

    This is no longer the case.

    For starters, several people seem to have forgotten or ignored our terms of service completely. This is not a democracy: this is MY private club. I pay for it. I invite you in, and I (or my empowered moderators) will ask you to LEAVE if you want to flout the rules. Arguing with the moderators counts as TOS violation. Name-calling the moderators counts as a TOS violation. STALKING THE MODERATORS TO THEIR PRIVATE WEB SPACES TO INSULT AND HARASS THEM COUNTS AS A TOS VIOLATION, and is also the last straw. The very last straw.

    Game companies both larger and smaller than Green Ronin have given up their forums in recent years. Others have tried to maintain spaces free of jerkish behavior through rigorous moderation. Yet others have moved their communities off to places like Facebook, G+, or other hosted forum spaces like RPG.net or ENWorld. I don't know exactly what Green Ronin is going to do in the future but I am here to announce that it's very unlikely to be continuing to host our own.

    If there are things here that you would like to see preserved, I suggest you start backing that stuff up. Create a "Please Archive this" thread if you think there are things that would be beneficial to be preserved. We're still discussing what we're going to do and if you're decent and persuasive about it you might even sway me to set up an archive of your favorite stuff. I will tell you all right now, though, that I have absolutely had it with providing a platform for people to fight, argue, threaten, belittle, name-call, stalk, and harass. I won't have it. I won't enable it. I won't tolerate it.

    Thank you for your attention and please clean up after yourselves until I get back.
    Sister Garrote of Warm Humanitarianism -- The Mean Ronin
    www.greenronin.com
    www.mutantsandmasterminds.com
    nicole@greenronin.com

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    Re: Important forum update from nikchick

    Damn. I'm very sorry to hear this, Nicole. I'd always thought of this forum as a startling well self-policed forum (and I've been here and the predecessors at the Atomic Think Tank for a long, long time, albeit under another name back then). The sort of behavior you're referencing is simply inexcusable, and is pretty much a poster child for what's destroying communication on the Web.

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    • #3
      Re: Important forum update from nikchick

      This has been one of the few forums on the web I felt good about regularly posting on.

      One where I felt I could state my opinions without being attacked for them.

      It's been a home. A safe haven. And I don't think it will be possible to replace.

      So yes, i'm extremely sad about things having gotten to this point.

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      • #4
        Re: Important forum update from nikchick

        This is really terrible news. I haven't run across too many threads where I've seen such bad behavior, but I don't doubt it exists.

        I'll miss the regular interactions with the staff here. They are always so helpful and friendly.

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          Re: Important forum update from nikchick

          Sorry to hear that people have been causing trouble here, I'll miss this forum.
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          • #6
            Re: Important forum update from nikchick

            Originally posted by Doctor Atomic View Post
            Sorry to hear that people have been causing trouble here, I'll miss this forum.
            So say we all

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            • #7
              Re: Important forum update from nikchick

              This is a wonderful forum, please don't throw it away because of a few bad eggs. If there are some people who are being bad, just ban them. I'm really sorry about your decision. I've had years of enjoyment on both this site and the atomic think tank site where I was introduced to mutants and masterminds.
              Last edited by kirinke; 11-04-2016, 04:46 AM.

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              • #8
                Re: Important forum update from nikchick

                Wow this is just awful news.

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                • #9
                  Re: Important forum update from nikchick

                  This is sad to hear. This has been the single gaming forum I've actually felt comfortable on. That being said, since I posted a lament to this forum going away and that post has vanished...maybe I'm one of the bad people? If so, please just tell me. If it would preserve the forum for others I would willingly (however regretfully) bow out.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Important forum update from nikchick

                    Originally posted by Horsenhero View Post
                    This is sad to hear. This has been the single gaming forum I've actually felt comfortable on. That being said, since I posted a lament to this forum going away and that post has vanished...maybe I'm one of the bad people? If so, please just tell me. If it would preserve the forum for others I would willingly (however regretfully) bow out.
                    I don't see your post anywhere. It's not caught in the spam traps. It hasn't been moderated. Computer glitch? This post has a duplicate post in the M&M General section, is it possible you posted your reply there?
                    ALL HAIL THE SPAM-O-MATIC!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Important forum update from nikchick

                      Originally posted by Fildrigar View Post
                      I don't see your post anywhere. It's not caught in the spam traps. It hasn't been moderated. Computer glitch? This post has a duplicate post in the M&M General section, is it possible you posted your reply there?
                      That's altogether possible. I have a tendency to operate on the terribly disorganized side of things.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Important forum update from nikchick

                        I wanted to say so many things, but many others who posted here before me have already stated it. To sum it up: I've enjoyed my time here incredibly, and I would miss this community if it does get shut down. I too have been here since Atomic Think Tank, and have enjoyed so much of this community here, despite mostly being in the Game Room with other players. I have learned so many things while on this board, and experienced something spectacular in the process.

                        I do appreciate all of your hard work and effort in working with this website- as well as all the Green Ronin staff's work as well. I have a plethora of resources for M&M from Green Ronin, and I love the system. I'd hate to see this site be taken down, only to have to find a different community that does Play by Post.

                        If nothing else, I sincerely thank you all once again for your hard work and effort for all that you have done for this community as well as many other communities outside of this website. I do hope that everything is worked out, and that M&M- as well as all the other products of Green Ronin- are great endeavors and successes in the future to come.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Important forum update from nikchick

                          Originally posted by Horsenhero View Post
                          That's altogether possible. I have a tendency to operate on the terribly disorganized side of things.
                          You may have also posted on one of the handful of posts immediately after the incident where people were trying to figure out what had happened. At least one of them disappeared completely.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Important forum update from nikchick

                            Mods and employees of Ronin Publishing, I would like to thank you for roninarmy. I myself have only been here a year, maybe less to be honest I'm not sure. But in that time I have quickly turned from player to GM. If it wasn't for time constraints I could have easily ran games of all variety. This forum has allowed me to not only practice my writing (which is something I've never really had the opportunity to do before) but also finally write the story (with some assistance) that has been in my head since I was 12 years old.

                            Unfortunately someone has ruined this community, and while I am upset I have perhaps lost my outlet for creativity and practice. I can tell you I have learned so much.

                            Last year I had a mild interest in writing. Now I'm going to school and hope to one day become a full fledged author. Using the setting of Pillars Fall to write a book with, but from Pillars perspective. If you've been following along, that might interest you or bore you. I don't know, but I do know I'm getting off track. M&M has turned writing from a past time to a medium I want to use to make a career out of. Maybe one day I can start my own animation company and make what we play here come to life (players and Gm's willing of course, but that's far away)

                            I hope I am able to tell you how much this forum has changed me. Made me a better player, gm and author/writer. I'm not going to stop, it will be a long time before I can see myself doing that. But thank you for this opportunity and I wish the best of luck to you all in your endeavors!
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                            • #15
                              Re: Important forum update from nikchick

                              Just found out about the impending shutdown; while I'm not aware of the specifics, I'm pretty horrified that someone here would go so far as to harass one of the mods at all, let alone follow them away from the board to do so.

                              That said, as someone who fairly recently got served a two week ban, I felt it necessary to come here and apologize for whatever responsibility I have for the situation, either directly or indirectly though contributing to an atmosphere where Green Ronin now feels maintaining the board is more trouble than it's worth. While I made the decision a while back to remove myself from the community even before receiving the ban, I still feel like it's a good resource for new players coming in wanting to learn about the game. It could be a terrific resource if certain negative elements weren't allowed to run quite so rampant. Regardless, it's still a loss for everyone who loved the boards, and I'm genuinely sorry for any role I had in Green Ronin's decision to shut them down.
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