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    Now, i'm not sure if this has been touched upon on the forums (and also, to be honest, i'm too freaking lazy to check back all the way to the first ever post so...); but i want to ask if anyone has done anything along the lines of Spirit Integration?

    The reason i ask is that a player of mine wants to have his character bond with a spirit of some kind; as to help in the plot. Now, i did some digging into the lore of Dragon Age and found that only a few instances occur with bonding with spirits. The first is in Dragon Age Origins with Wynn. now, this is gotten around by the Spirit Healer Specialization she starts with. Second case is Justice from Awakening. you can pick him up and he inhabits the body of a recently dead Grey Warden and then helps you out in the story. the third is Anders and his connection to Justice/Vengeance. This skill tree was unique to him and his powers were quite powerful when used properly. The fourth and final case is Cole from Inquisition; being a Spirit of Compassion that took over the body of a dying mage.

    I like the idea of bonding with Spirits since they too inhabit the Fade as Demons. when a Demon does it, they take over completley and create an Abomination. bonding with a spirit however could create a harmonious thing that gives the mage unique powers therein.

    I had a few options to run past yall to see which you think would work best (as my player still is unsure of what kind of Spirit to bond too as of yet)
    1: Specialization: i could simply give him the choice of gaining a Specialization at level 6 to represent the Spirit in Question. Valor may be Arcane Warrior; Compassion may be a Spirit Healer for examaples
    2: Grey Warden: by this i mean that they gain benefits like the Grey Wardens do in game. 1 Ability point, 1 free focus, 1 talent Degree and so on. They would also gain 1 unique capability that represents the spirit. Like Compassion may grant a bonus to healing spells for example or Valor may increase melee damage or grant the use of Armor Training.
    3: Make it up!!!: The final option is to make several new Talents or Specializations to represent the Spirit. This gives some freedom to play with the system (And recreate Justice ), and give new and unique options therein.

    So again i ask; What kinds of things have yall done for Spirits and which of these options do you think is best?
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  • #2
    Don't the Avarr Augurs all host spirits during their apprenticeships? I think there's also an Inquisition soldier who basically invites a rage demon inside them but manages to co-exist with them, as they seek vengeance against the Haakonites.

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    • #3
      If you make it a Specialization, how does one go about getting it? Obviously, there would be a ritual. But is this for a Mage or non-Mage?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by COBigBlueBox View Post
        If you make it a Specialization, how does one go about getting it? Obviously, there would be a ritual. But is this for a Mage or non-Mage?
        I'm still not sure on the roleplaying aspect of it all. i was thinking that i nearly kill them and they interact with their chosen spirit and it saves them. (Not sure yet but that's a good way to do it since Dragon Age is really gritty when it comes to people dying!)

        The player in question is playing a Mage; and he wants to be unique tot he other mage in the group who is more combat oriented anyway. The other one is going for Arcane Warrior. She is also kinda leaning towards a Shapeshifter (she only told me this morning so i didn't know that when i made the initial posting; sorry).

        I'm thinking that the Spirit could be one of nature; that takes the form of a wolf or falcon or something. This could also explain the Shapeshifter thing as it teaches her how to assume forms like it can.

        That's just based on the new information she gave me this morning. what do you all think?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by VladGenX View Post

          I'm still not sure on the roleplaying aspect of it all. i was thinking that i nearly kill them and they interact with their chosen spirit and it saves them. (Not sure yet but that's a good way to do it since Dragon Age is really gritty when it comes to people dying!)

          The player in question is playing a Mage; and he wants to be unique tot he other mage in the group who is more combat oriented anyway. The other one is going for Arcane Warrior. She is also kinda leaning towards a Shapeshifter (she only told me this morning so i didn't know that when i made the initial posting; sorry).

          I'm thinking that the Spirit could be one of nature; that takes the form of a wolf or falcon or something. This could also explain the Shapeshifter thing as it teaches her how to assume forms like it can.

          That's just based on the new information she gave me this morning. what do you all think?
          So if I understand this correctly, the one who you posted this for us taking Shapeshifter as her other Specialization?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by COBigBlueBox View Post

            So if I understand this correctly, the one who you posted this for us taking Shapeshifter as her other Specialization?
            That's what she's thinking yes. She's still not quite sure but that's her lean. we are only near level 6 so she's taking her first spec. The other mage is going for Arcane Warrior. He's always been more combat oriented anyway so....The woman on the other hand is our healer but she wants a bit more utilitarian-style gameplay so her thought is Shapeshifter.

            My warrior is going Berserker and the final player is going for assassin since she is a rogue (i have 2 guys and 2 girls in my group right now).

            With 3 players choosing combat styles; Amanda wants a more utility/healer type, and she always likes playing a shifter in the games so....she wants to try the RPG version of it and see if she likes it too.

            I know, its a bit convoluted to say the least...
            Last edited by VladGenX; 23rd December 2019, 09:54 PM.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by VladGenX View Post

              That's what she's thinking yes. She's still not quite sure but that's her lean. we are only near level 6 so she's taking her first spec. The other mage is going for Arcane Warrior. He's always been more combat oriented anyway so....The woman on the other hand is our healer but she wants a bit more utilitarian-style gameplay so her thought is Shapeshifter.

              My warrior is going Berserker and the final player is going for assassin since she is a rogue (i have 2 guys and 2 girls in my group right now).

              With 3 players choosing combat styles; Amanda wants a more utility/healer type, and she always likes playing a shifter in the games so....she wants to try the RPG version of it and see if she likes it too.

              I know, its a bit convoluted to say the least...
              That’s cool. I suggested Blood Mage to a few players. Only one playing a Tevinter Altus bit on that hook.

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              • #8
                yeah, blood magic has its usage. but, the problem is that its easily corruptible. Too many fall into the trap and come out worse.

                i did take up Blood Magic playing Origins my very first time through (at the time not understanding the lore; it just sounded really badass!) and it can have some very powerful effects in-game. I try and let my players do what they want. None of my current group likes Blood Magic and they all have this disdain for it (some only in the game but a few don't like it outside either).

                I've always thought that Blood Magic was very dark; maybe not inherently evil like everyone thinks it is, but definitely very dark indeed. To use someones life to create magic is dark to say the least. and like i said, there are those who fall into the "Power Corrupts; Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely" trap.

                And my player who wants the spirit, actually thought of Blood Mage as her specialization since she is taking a huge risk with this entity. The issue with it is that it may corrupt the spirit like Anders did with Justice.

                But, anyway, i'm leaning towards just making her gain her first Specialization as her Spirit Integration (Like Wynn from Origins). This will keep it simple and adds some unique storytelling to the game.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by VladGenX View Post
                  yeah, blood magic has its usage. but, the problem is that its easily corruptible. Too many fall into the trap and come out worse.

                  i did take up Blood Magic playing Origins my very first time through (at the time not understanding the lore; it just sounded really badass!) and it can have some very powerful effects in-game. I try and let my players do what they want. None of my current group likes Blood Magic and they all have this disdain for it (some only in the game but a few don't like it outside either).

                  I've always thought that Blood Magic was very dark; maybe not inherently evil like everyone thinks it is, but definitely very dark indeed. To use someones life to create magic is dark to say the least. and like i said, there are those who fall into the "Power Corrupts; Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely" trap.

                  And my player who wants the spirit, actually thought of Blood Mage as her specialization since she is taking a huge risk with this entity. The issue with it is that it may corrupt the spirit like Anders did with Justice.

                  But, anyway, i'm leaning towards just making her gain her first Specialization as her Spirit Integration (Like Wynn from Origins). This will keep it simple and adds some unique storytelling to the game.
                  Let me know how it goes. I made a post with the highlights from my current game, if you feel like checking it out. I’ll update it as the players decide to do shenanigans.

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