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    I just started a campaign with some friends, and we're a bit confused on some of the rules, was hoping someone could help us out.

    So, we get the basics of attack and damage but some of the wording is a little confusing. Here's where the problem comes in.

    So, you roll your attack check vs. defense (dodge or parry), and it's pretty simple: d20 + any attack bonuses versus your defense class (which is your defense rank + 10). Got that, makes sense, it's easy, no problem

    Then, if the attack connects, you have the Toughness check to resist damage. Now, in the book on page 189 in the Damage Resistance Check, it just says Toughness vs. (damage rank + 15). Is that just your straight Toughness stat, or is it an actual Toughness check (as in d20 + Toughness). That's where we're unsure of what to do, it says check above it but in the box just says Toughness.

    Another minor hiccup we're coming across is on page 194, where it says Resistance Difficulty = effect rank + 10. In the paragraph above, it says that all attacks have effects, like Damage etc., and the difficulty class to resist is that Resistance Difficulty. This seems to conflict with the info on page 189 where it says Damage Resistance check is damage rank + 15. We kind of assumed that the resistance check was for ANY effect EXCEPT damage, and decided to use the rank + 15 for damage and rank + 10 for everything else.

    Are we doing this right? Can someone help out and clarify what the correct action is?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Re: Basic 3e rules questions

    Originally posted by itzbane View Post
    Then, if the attack connects, you have the Toughness check to resist damage. Now, in the book on page 189 in the Damage Resistance Check, it just says Toughness vs. (damage rank + 15). Is that just your straight Toughness stat, or is it an actual Toughness check (as in d20 + Toughness). That's where we're unsure of what to do, it says check above it but in the box just says Toughness.
    It's a Toughness check. In general, any time there's a DC, that means that you're making a check; e.g., rolling d20 and adding it to the ability.

    So when you get hit with Damage, you have to roll d20 + Toughness vs. the DC (generally Damage rank + 15).

    Another minor hiccup we're coming across is on page 194, where it says Resistance Difficulty = effect rank + 10. In the paragraph above, it says that all attacks have effects, like Damage etc., and the difficulty class to resist is that Resistance Difficulty. This seems to conflict with the info on page 189 where it says Damage Resistance check is damage rank + 15. We kind of assumed that the resistance check was for ANY effect EXCEPT damage, and decided to use the rank + 15 for damage and rank + 10 for everything else.
    That's correct. Damage is a special case.

    Advanced Note: If you actually look at the effects of resisting Damage vs. resisting other things (like an Affliction), you'll see that the DC may be one degree (+5) harder, but the effects are about one degree weaker (specifically, you have to fail by three degrees for Affliction to take you out, but four degrees for Damage to do so). So the real reason Damage is treated special is to incorporate "bruises" (those cumulative -1 penalties you get for just barely failing), which are crucial to taking down enemies with really high Toughness.
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      Re: Basic 3e rules questions

      Thanks so much! That really helped iron out the last questions we had, everything else is fairly straight forward with the system.

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