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    What PL would someone have to be to incinerate everyone on a planet, could you do it with low power but lots of extended range?

  • #2
    Re: Incinerate everyone on the planet

    Depends on how reliably people make their damage saves and what the upper limit of Toughness is.
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    • #3
      Re: Incinerate everyone on the planet

      incinerate everyone with toughness 5 or less

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      • #4
        Re: Incinerate everyone on the planet

        Well, assuming they all roll a 10 on their Toughness saves, you would need damage rank 15 to wipe them out in one shot. DC 30-result of 15 (10+5), fail by 15, Incapacitated/dead/incinerated.

        If we go for a lasting fire with secondary effect, rank 14 would suffice, assuming they all suffered at least a -1 penalty from the first one.

        However, if they're all just throwaway civilians, we can assume Minion rules are in place. As such, they need only fail by 1 to be incinerated. As such, again assuming a roll of 10 and toughness 5, you could do it with Damage 1.

        DC 16, roll of 15-fail by 1, since they're minions, they suffer the worst result and are charred.

        M&M is a funny system like that. A Heroic normal guy with Toughness 0 if he rolls a 1 could be knocked out by a reasonably strong guy (Strength 2) with one punch. which happens in media a lot.

        Or, with a roll of 20 he could shrug off, completely ignore a rank 5 attack like a rifle shot.
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        • #5
          Re: Incinerate everyone on the planet

          thanks for that

          So as I thought, you could have the power to kill every normal person on the planet and still fail to kill a major characters whose fifty feet away if they are tough enough.

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          • #6
            Re: Incinerate everyone on the planet

            That definitely fits genre. Huge explosion engulfs area around Villain, dust clouds, devastation, "nobody could have survived that" -- and out through the smoke and flames they step. That's like every action movie ever.
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            • #7
              Re: Incinerate everyone on the planet

              True

              How much range would you did to do it over the whole planet?

              It doesn't actually happen but the fact that she could is plot critical

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              • #8
                Re: Incinerate everyone on the planet

                First of all if it doesnt actually happen, it doesn't matter. It's a plot device so leave it at that.

                That said, this isn't a question of range, so much as Area. So you'd need Burst area, most likely, and then enough ranks of Increased Area to cover the whole planet. So, a lot. Like a lot, a lot.
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                • #9
                  Re: Incinerate everyone on the planet

                  And things like this is why Area in 2E went from +1/rank to make it area and then a flat +1 to increase the area size to +1/rank/area size in 3E, because people always want to go build the power that hits everyone on the planet.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Incinerate everyone on the planet

                    Strictly speaking, Burst Area is actually spherical, so an Area Effect that hits everyone on the planet is a Burst with at least the same radius as the Earth. Since that's just under 4000 miles, or rank 20 distance, and the first rank of Burst area is 30' radius, or rank 0, it would need to be 21 ranks of Burst Area to engulf the Earth.

                    As mentioned before, a Damage 1 attack can take out a minion with up to Toughness 5 using routine checks and minion rules, so a Burst Area 21 Damage 1 effect would wipe every minion off the planet for 22p as a Standard Action. Easy peasy!

                    So when you try to stunt this off the Ranged Damage 12 blast on your energy controller and your GM says no, understand that just because the system is flexible enough to allow you to do something doesn't always mean it's a good idea.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Incinerate everyone on the planet

                      oh I know that, I just wanted to know what range and damage would be needed so I can do the build right

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