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badpenny
09-20-2014, 06:19 AM
Supergirl (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/supergirl-lands-at-cbs-series-734268) gets a go-ahead at CBS

Corrigon
09-21-2014, 02:29 AM
lets hope its better than the film

saint_matthew
09-21-2014, 07:36 AM
lets hope its better than the film

Which Supergirl movie would that be, there are clearly 5 different movies in that one film... This is what you get when you start filming before the script is finished being written, there's even a name for it: A cinema loaf.

Darrin Kelley
09-21-2014, 01:11 PM
Helen Slater was the best thing about that movie. And I don't fault her for the movie being bad.

saint_matthew
09-21-2014, 05:06 PM
Helen Slater was the best thing about that movie. And I don't fault her for the movie being bad.

yeah there really was nothing she could do to save that film.

witchfire
09-22-2014, 05:10 AM
will the serie be in the arrowverse or the man of steelverse

badpenny
09-22-2014, 05:19 AM
It's hard to say since CBS isn't owned by Warner Bros, they may not have full access to DC. It's going to be whatever they negotiated.

Arrow/Flashverse is more or less the full DCU if they want it since the CW network is owned wholly by WB/DC.

savijmuhdrox
09-22-2014, 07:41 AM
As long as its not in the vein of shows where the lead female character has a [insert desirable job description here] but can never get her #$@& together in her personal life.. then i would tune in to watch it.

and since Berlanti has done shows like this before, maybe he can hit the ground running..

saint_matthew
09-23-2014, 03:07 AM
As long as its not in the vein of shows where the lead female character has a [insert desirable job description here] but can never get her #$@& together in her personal life.. then i would tune in to watch it.

Its CBS, you'd be lucky if they can create something as good as lead female character has a [insert desirable job description here] but can never get her #$@& together in her personal life.... but lets not be negative, given an infinitely large universe, with an infinite amount of time, everything has to be somewhere & some when eventually.... Maybe this will be the somewhere & some when, when Supergirl as a tv show is good.... I mean stranger things have happened, right?

savijmuhdrox
09-23-2014, 06:15 AM
Its CBS, you'd be lucky if they can create something as good as lead female character has a [insert desirable job description here] but can never get her #$@& together in her personal life.... but lets not be negative, given an infinitely large universe, with an infinite amount of time, everything has to be somewhere & some when eventually.... Maybe this will be the somewhere & some when, when Supergirl as a tv show is good.... I mean stranger things have happened, right?

much stranger things indeed. Alf, Bosom Buddies, Automan, that one with the nuclear apocalypse, Manimal, anything with Debra Messing..

but i do get where you're coming from, i think.. Out of all the possible DC properties to appropriate.. this wouldn't be on the top of anyone's supposed list... not even of blonde superheroines.. (Black Canary, Arrowette, Wondergirl..)

but i can hope that this is something that has been thought out.. and not just

"we need a female lead.. that's white and blonde.. and oh.. can we put a Superman symbol on her? What? You already have one? Well hot damn, we'll take that."

Goldar
09-23-2014, 06:35 AM
I am glad to see that this is in the works!

A good actress who not only cares about the character but knows her as well will go a long way in making Kara and the series believable and enjoyable to fans.

Funny thing though---I had not heard about Supergirl until this thread; was this a well-hidden tv idea or a last-minute decision by the network?

badpenny
09-23-2014, 06:54 AM
Funny thing though---I had not heard about Supergirl until this thread; was this a well-hidden tv idea or a last-minute decision by the network?

From what articles I've been able to find, it could be as simple as, "Every other network is going to have a superhero show...why not us?!"

From a DC (Warner Bros) perspective, CBS quite often wins the ratings for the week, so DC might think CBS would be a good place to try out something that they wouldn't want to risk $100+ million as a film.

I just hope they give the show greater access to the DCU so we get some good comic book action. I'm not interested in another Lois and Clark.

Goldar
09-23-2014, 09:19 AM
I just hope they give the show greater access to the DCU so we get some good comic book action. I'm not interested in another Lois and Clark.

Yep, me too! I want some superhero action on the small screen!

danelsan
01-23-2015, 04:04 AM
http://s15.postimg.org/7hkklbpez/h23_C3_E6_A1.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


So, apparently Melissa Benoist has been chosen for the role of Supergirl. I have never seem any work of hers, anyone here knows how good is her acting?

saint_matthew
01-23-2015, 05:00 AM
http://s15.postimg.org/7hkklbpez/h23_C3_E6_A1.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

So, apparently Melissa Benoist has been chosen for the role of Supergirl. I have never seem any work of hers, anyone here knows how good is her acting?

From what I understand she's a bit of a bit actor.... She was in Glee apparently, but since I'm not a 14 year old girl I've never seen an episode or cared to pursue it. I'm just going to assume she was good enough in it that they thought she'd be suitable for Supergirl.... She's also done Broadway, so that shows some range..... So she's not completely an unknown actor.

She does have that girl next door thing going on for her, so I think she might work out. Here's an example of what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEnHgwoXG8c

badpenny
01-23-2015, 06:20 AM
Grant Gustin came from Glee, too, and he's doing great on the Flash.

Bladewind
01-23-2015, 06:42 AM
Since I definitely fall in the camp of "fed up with news being rewritten as TV episodes" and "hell no, not more so called reality" I'm gonna be hopefully optimistic about this one.

What I'm actually itching to find out is what type of Supergirl they intend to portray. They're going with the Kryptonian origin, so Matrix is out (which is a good thing, but not because the character was bad). But which style of Kara? Silver Age? Leave this place and do no harm cardboard? Midriff baring adult trapped in the body of a 14 year old girl? New 52?

Supergirl is a good character. She has potential to be more than just Superman in a skirt.

Goldar
01-23-2015, 07:09 AM
I am glad to hear more news ongoing with the series.

Never heard of the actress, but she does have an innocent look to her and some minor resemblance to the current Kara look.

I am Hopefully optimistic about this series.

With her brown hair, she could play golden age/early silver age Kara (when she would wear a brown wig), although the hair color really doesn't matter as much as good stories, good acting and of course good superheroic action! I also wouldn't mind seeing the Nu52 version either.

badpenny
01-23-2015, 01:27 PM
Since CBS is a co-owner of the CW, there's the possibility of a crossover (plus the shows all have the same showrunner: Greg Berlanti), but I'd rather it just be a shared universe kind of thing, because Supergirl needs much tougher bad guys than what Arrow or the Flash offer.

danelsan
01-23-2015, 02:02 PM
From what I have read around, this will feature a 24 years old version of Kara that is just starting to use her powers as a super-heroine, but her cousin will already be a known hero - apparently his status and reputation will have a significant role in the series, though it is not clear if he will actually show up in it* (Personally, I imagine there will be a few appearances every now and then), and there are interviews indicating that a crossover with Flash/Arrow is considered a possibility (though, being in different networks, it would be much harder to actually pull off).



*One commenter on some site did have an amusing idea, though: "Superman will actually be in every episode: he'll just be moving so fast that no one can see him! You know, Kara will be busy stopping a train from smashing into a school bus and someone will fall off a skyscraper at that exact moment. Suddenly, the falling man will just be standing near Kara with a confused look on his face. Camera cuts to Kara and she'll say "Oh, that Kal!" Typical sitcom music plays as the credits roll."

Goldar
01-23-2015, 02:32 PM
Yeah, I had a feeling that they might try to "give the series a boost" excuse, by using the more well-known cousin to increase the ratings.

Although, I am Hoping they don't rely on this and make the series great in and of itself.

However, if they do use Supes, perhaps they can just show us his back as he says a few words to Kara, or the side of his shoulder as he does something minor so in effect, not putting much emphasis on him. This is, after all, supposed to be a show about Kara.

I do agree with badpenny that Kara needs tough, competent foes and ones that work well on screen. The show needs good plot, good acting and good special effects.

badpenny
01-23-2015, 02:34 PM
...and there are interviews indicating that a crossover with Flash/Arrow is considered a possibility (though, being in different networks, it would be much harder to actually pull off).

CBS is a co-owner of CW (CBS / WB), so it's much more likely than say Agents of SHIELD (Disney/ABC) and Daredevil (Netflix).

Bladewind
01-23-2015, 02:50 PM
I do agree with badpenny that Kara needs tough, competent foes and ones that work well on screen. The show needs good plot, good acting and good special effects.

Personally, I'd love to see them do the 2 or three issue story arc with Blackstaar. Although the Nazi overtones might be a bit much for current TV, it was a compelling story that also highlighted some of Kara's true power.
That, and also showed she wasn't just her cousin in a skirt.

That said, she's had her own share of goofy wannabes that should not have been a challenge.

Goldar
01-23-2015, 04:01 PM
I love 2-3 part story arcs, but only when they keep the pace going through all parts of the arc. Sometimes they only make part 1 good to keep the fans coming back just for ratings. And for fans, it can be a real let down wanting to see what happens, and then getting disappointed when the later parts are poorly done.

I don't know any of Kara's foes, but I wouldn't want to see many episodes that were "funny" nor have the series turn into a comedy series. I'd rather it have the feel of the Flash to some degree. Maybe have it be scientific, technological and with some alien foes!

Horsenhero
01-23-2015, 04:37 PM
Kara has an extremely anemic rogues gallery, so much like Arrow, I imagine the writers will be freely poaching villains from other heroes.

Which of course leads me to wonder if we're going to hear the same amount of fanwhine about it. Personally, I wouldn't care if Chemo or Major Force or Metallo appeared in the series or if they made Circe a season's big bad, because Supergirl's arch-nemesis is Reactron. Reactron? Who the f*** is Reactron?

Somebody will complain though, because the internet loves to be outraged.

Bladewind
01-23-2015, 06:08 PM
You dare mock Reactron ?

http://writeups.org/img/fiche/3169.jpg

danelsan
01-23-2015, 06:33 PM
CBS is a co-owner of CW (CBS / WB), so it's much more likely than say Agents of SHIELD (Disney/ABC) and Daredevil (Netflix).

Oh, certainly, but still more logistically troublesome than Flash/Arrow crossovers, particularly in terms of scheduling

Arthur Eld
01-24-2015, 04:10 PM
I've seen Benoist on Glee, though I haven't seen Whiplash yet (I will probably will soon just to stay up to date with the Oscars), and she was good in Glee.

She also has some range as she played a party girl in Homeland (very briefly) auditioning for a spot in a Prince's harem, a scene I won't link to due to some...impropriety.

Bladewind
01-24-2015, 05:11 PM
I love 2-3 part story arcs, but only when they keep the pace going through all parts of the arc. Sometimes they only make part 1 good to keep the fans coming back just for ratings. And for fans, it can be a real let down wanting to see what happens, and then getting disappointed when the later parts are poorly done.


What I meant by that was that the comic was 2 or 3 issues long, I have them in a box somewhere. The story ran over several issues, there'd be no real reason to drag out over multiple episodes though.

badpenny
02-02-2015, 07:50 AM
Supergirl's first opponent (http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/405161-obscure-dc-comics-villain-lumberjack-to-menace-cbs-supergirl) is going to be:

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110421214225/marvel_dc/images/c/cc/Lumberjack.png

Are you bloody well kidding me?!

danelsan
02-02-2015, 08:28 AM
Supergirl's first opponent (http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/405161-obscure-dc-comics-villain-lumberjack-to-menace-cbs-supergirl) is going to be:

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110421214225/marvel_dc/images/c/cc/Lumberjack.png

Are you bloody well kidding me?!

Well, hopefully he is technically the first but just as a joke villain she detains in a second and then the story proceeds to the actual villain of the episode. Or that they somehow manage to reinvent the dude into something cool.

Horsenhero
02-02-2015, 09:09 AM
Yeah, a big dude with a badass axe isn't a bad concept, as long as they skew toward 'Terrax the Tamer', as opposed to 'Duck Dynasty' when designing his look. The nice thing about using an obscure, one-shot villain is nobody's likely to care if you change them radically.

danelsan
03-07-2015, 02:52 PM
So, first look at Supergirl's costume for this series:

http://s23.postimg.org/tvb6xid8b/h_C432_C0_B5.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

Designed by Colleen Atwood, also responsible for the costumes from Arrow and Flash. I'm pretty much OK with it, though I'd like it better if it had that little triangular extension of the sleeve over the hand that is in at least one of SG's costumes, and if the S shield was entirely filled with yellow instead of just contoured. Still, taking basically the classic design and adding a little texture like this should work all right for TV. I actually like it better than the Flash's costume.

badpenny
05-07-2015, 05:24 AM
Supergirl's (https://deadline.com/2015/05/supergirl-series-picked-up-cbs-1201421683/) been picked up for series by CBS. The first trailer is rumored to debut in two weeks or so.

Vartox is the first baddie. A girl can only hope he's still a big ol' space pimp and refers to himself in third person. What if they made it campy like the 60s Batman? lolz

http://www.janthor.com/skizzenaux/peej/peej4_11f_pg706.jpeg

savijmuhdrox
05-07-2015, 05:55 AM
Supergirl... fine...

but I swear... If she has even one #$@%^& flashback, then I'm out. I don't care if its just a flashback of Rila Fukushima being adorable for ten minutes.. I'm still out.. just.. you know.. after I stare longingly at her funny little head..

I kid.. it can't possibly be worse then Shm-Arrow.. I will give it a more concentrated effort.. though my bar will be set at Supergirl punching Metallo.. though I will allow for generic giant robot to supplant Metallo.. for the first season..

badpenny
05-07-2015, 06:07 AM
Oh, I think it's going to have tons of flashbacks given the entire concept of the show is that she's been in hiding all these years. And, they just cast young Kara (http://www.kpopstarz.com/articles/196353/20150426/supergirl-cbs-cast.htm), so....

saint_matthew
05-07-2015, 06:27 AM
http://s23.postimg.org/tvb6xid8b/h_C432_C0_B5.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

What the hell, this costume looks like a super hero costume.... One that is even recognizable as the one worn in the comics.... No armor plating, no collars, no random superfluous lines, a symbol that looks remotely like the symbol in question..... The pants are different, but since it doesn't take away from the costume I'm fine with it. Don't like the textured material comic book movies and shows all feel the need to use, but I can deal with it.


but I swear... If she has even one #$@%^& flashback, then I'm out.

LOL, then you'll have company, because you are not the only one sick of random flashbacks in DC/WB owned superhero properties.

savijmuhdrox
05-07-2015, 07:52 AM
Oh, I think it's going to have tons of flashbacks given the entire concept of the show is that she's been in hiding all these years. And, they just cast young Kara (http://www.kpopstarz.com/articles/196353/20150426/supergirl-cbs-cast.htm), so....

sigh.. what's that thing Anakin Skywalker used to say all the time, back in the day?

oh right.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

the only time a flashback is a good idea is when its Lil Gus and Lil Shawn and doting father Corbin Bernsen

Stormson
05-07-2015, 09:51 AM
sigh.. what's that thing Anakin Skywalker used to say all the time, back in the day?

oh right.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

the only time a flashback is a good idea is when its Lil Gus and Lil Shawn and doting father Corbin Bernsen

So. Why are those acceptable, yet potential Supergirl flashbacks are not?

Don't get me wrong, Psych is likely one of my favorite shows ever, Im just curious why that example would get a pass, when they were generally used for the same narrative purpose.

savijmuhdrox
05-07-2015, 10:41 AM
So. Why are those acceptable, yet potential Supergirl flashbacks are not?

Don't get me wrong, Psych is likely one of my favorite shows ever, Im just curious why that example would get a pass, when they were generally used for the same narrative purpose.

for lack of any coherent reason.. cuz they were funny?

Horsenhero
05-07-2015, 02:22 PM
sigh.. what's that thing Anakin Skywalker used to say all the time, back in the day?

oh right.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!


Ugh. Anakin Skywalker sucks so much @$$. Besides he stole that from Captain Kirk anyway.

Anyway, I'm down for the Supergirl series, though I'm glad she's wearing hose with her skirt. Vartox is a great, funny as hell villain (even if he wasn't really villainous in his first Superman appearances way back in the day). Still, his space-pimp turn from Power Girl's comic was great, so his heel-turn is completely acceptable if they treat it with the same sort of humor.

Also on my wishlist for Supergirl to fight...Blackrock (especially if it's a smackdown of the Jim Lee designed super-slutty version), Reactron (Omg yes is he stupid, but he's Supergirl's arch-enemy or as close as she gets, so...bring him on), Brainstorm (Not a Supergirl villain but if he gets to keep his silly conehead helmet... that would be awesome), Blackstar (Because even though she's lame, she is actually a Supergirl villain, so that's got to be worth something), Silver Banshee (Because she's got a cool look and she should show up somewhere) and Atomic Skull (he looks bad ass and now the special effects required to do him justice exist...that's reason enough).

Kyle
05-07-2015, 03:31 PM
Vartox is the first baddie. A girl can only hope he's still a big ol' space pimp and refers to himself in third person. What if they made it campy like the 60s Batman? lolz

Madam, your ideas intrigue me, and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Kyle
05-13-2015, 03:50 PM
There's a first look trailer out now. Link! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm46-envrHo)

Looks like fun. I like the more light hearted tone they seem to be taking.

There are a lot of references to superman being a going concern which, if this is supposed to be set in the same world as 'Flash' and 'Arrow' seems like something that would have come up before. The trailer also opens with the same sort of monologue that every episode of those two shows has, as well.

Horsenhero
05-13-2015, 04:28 PM
There's a first look trailer out now. Link! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm46-envrHo)

Looks like fun. I like the more light hearted tone they seem to be taking.

There are a lot of references to superman being a going concern which, if this is supposed to be set in the same world as 'Flash' and 'Arrow' seems like something that would have come up before. The trailer also opens with the same sort of monologue that every episode of those two shows has, as well.

I like it!

If they can balance the light-hearted feel with some real drama and slather it all in a gooey gravy of super-human derring-do...I will be a frequent consumer.

Bladewind
05-13-2015, 05:01 PM
I like.

3:10... I absolutely love that sequence. "I'm a girl..." Lists a whole bunch of traits and asks if she has a problem with girl.
Sets a great tone.

badpenny
05-13-2015, 06:16 PM
For the WIIIN! Super excited!

Bladewind
05-13-2015, 06:34 PM
In the trollish and mostly pointless commentary *, someone points out a mention of Supes.

So this isn't set in Arrow or Flashverse?


*edit: referring to the You Tube comments

danelsan
05-13-2015, 06:40 PM
Seems like it will be fun. I, too, appreciate them going for a lighter tone, it suits Supergirl well.

The effects look poorer than in the Flash, but not bad enough to detract much from my enjoyment. It will probably have some "soup opera" bits I won't care about, but so does Flash and Arrow and I did not kill those series for me either, so it should be fine.

OK, kid, approved for now. Here, have a commemorative cake:

http://s17.postimg.org/r9i27cngv/h9_CDE6089.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

mrdent12
05-13-2015, 07:40 PM
This looks like it is going to be a fun show. It will be interesting how they do the secret identity thing if they do it at all since she has no mask.

Horsenhero
05-13-2015, 10:15 PM
This looks like it is going to be a fun show. It will be interesting how they do the secret identity thing if they do it at all since she has no mask.

Somehow super-people make it work with a slight change in hairstyle and glasses. Must be some sort of Kryptonian power.

As for the internet trolls...isn't that the internet's function? To provide a place where people can be unhappy with everything, regardless of whether they're familiar with it or not?

Kyle
05-13-2015, 10:20 PM
In the trollish and mostly pointless commentary, someone points out a mention of Supes.

So this isn't set in Arrow or Flashverse?

How was I being a troll? I was under the perhaps mistaken impression that the intent was to link 'Supergirl' to 'Arrow' and 'The Flash', which seems to be unlikely if Superman is an established hero that the public is aware of. I'm not complaining, just making an observation.

Yeoman
05-13-2015, 10:36 PM
There's a first look trailer out now. Link! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm46-envrHo)

Looks like fun. I like the more light hearted tone they seem to be taking.

There are a lot of references to superman being a going concern which, if this is supposed to be set in the same world as 'Flash' and 'Arrow' seems like something that would have come up before. The trailer also opens with the same sort of monologue that every episode of those two shows has, as well.

I don't know if this will be good... but this is obviously made by someone that wanted a fun series and actually cares about it's source material (The "S" as the coat of arms of the house). So that alone gets me to watch at least a few episodes.

Horsenhero
05-13-2015, 10:41 PM
How was I being a troll? I was under the perhaps mistaken impression that the intent was to link 'Supergirl' to 'Arrow' and 'The Flash', which seems to be unlikely if Superman is an established hero that the public is aware of. I'm not complaining, just making an observation.

I'm not sure, but I think he meant on the site that the video is hosted on. There's been some pretty instant backlash (for whatever stupid reason) on Screen Rant, iDigitalTimes and other sites. CNET was immediately dismissive of it, but since that's a conservative site and most of those seem to be knee-jerk against any program with a strong female protagonist, I pretty much ignored it.

Still, those same elements which made the Flash such a hit, seem to have aroused the ire of certain folks and the fact that the show doesn't ignore Superman's existence seems to be something deemed particularly scorn worthy.

These are probably the same people who want everyone to boycott the new Mad Max movie because of it's empowering message for women.

So...while I could be wrong...I don't think that was a grenade lobbed at you Kyle.

Der Schatten
05-13-2015, 10:49 PM
I definitely liked a lot of what I saw in the trailer. Really did not like the ditzy blonde stuff at the start. If it's there, I really hope it's just as a counterpoint to her accepting her powers and role and becoming more confident very early on in the first episode. That ditzy blonde routine will wear real thin, real fast.

mrdent12
05-13-2015, 10:53 PM
Since Superman is in the universe, maybe CBS overrode the shows creators about merging the universes. CBS is a pretty powerful network compared to the CW. There is also the possibility of time travel somehow making it all work. Once you introduce time travel anything is possible.

Kyle
05-13-2015, 10:59 PM
So...while I could be wrong...I don't think that was a grenade lobbed at you Kyle.

Fair enough. Just caught me off guard, considering I mentioned the various references to Superman in the same post where I linked the video.

Yeoman
05-13-2015, 11:08 PM
Since Superman is in the universe, maybe CBS overrode the shows creators about merging the universes. CBS is a pretty powerful network compared to the CW. There is also the possibility of time travel somehow making it all work. Once you introduce time travel anything is possible.

Well, Barry is probably gonna break Space/Time next week.

Maybe it's like the Bizarro Flashpoint. Instead of making everything suck, he's going to make everything more awesome.

mrdent12
05-13-2015, 11:27 PM
Granted I don't read comics much, but if all of a sudden a Flash episode changes everything on other shows it may not translate well to T.V unless they start doing some multiverse thing. Of course, it could also be a brilliant move. Conjecturing with scant evidence usually doesn't end well on the internet.

Back on topic though, I imagine they will start off with the typical ditzy blonde and have her go on a journey to being more mature and super heroic. Arrow went from killer to sort of not killer and Flash started as new kid with powers becoming a semi seasoned super hero. SO who knows where the show will go with character development. The scenes with her getting the blanket from superman and joining the anti alien unit provides some hope she matures.

Horsenhero
05-14-2015, 12:03 AM
My immediate thought, when she was acting ditzy (mostly to Jimmy before he knows who she is...or maybe before she knows that he knows) is that's sort of her "Clark Kent" persona. I mean for a long time, Clark acted like a minor-aw shucks- doofus compared to how Superman behaved, so maybe giggly ditz is how Kara Danvers behaves as opposed to Supergirl.

Though, from my time as an EMT, I can tell you, serious Emergency Responder and giggly, disney princess are not mutually exclusive. There were two partners Susan and Susan (the Susans) who ran the area abutting Carol and mine's and the taller, thinner of the pair was as much of a girly-girl as you could get, right down to a giggly, breathy laugh and pink gear (stethoscope, latex gloves, sphygmomanometer, oral airways, etc... all pink).

Gilliam
05-14-2015, 02:51 AM
I really liked what was in the trailer so I will be definitely watching when it screens. And who knows maybe one day we will get a sing off between Barry and Kara.

Bladewind
05-14-2015, 04:17 AM
How was I being a troll? I was under the perhaps mistaken impression that the intent was to link 'Supergirl' to 'Arrow' and 'The Flash', which seems to be unlikely if Superman is an established hero that the public is aware of. I'm not complaining, just making an observation.

Deepest apologies.

I was talking about the You Tube commentators.
I missed your comment with the link as I started reading and stopped at the link itself.




So...while I could be wrong...I don't think that was a grenade lobbed at you Kyle.

Indeed.

Again. sorry !

saint_matthew
05-14-2015, 04:54 AM
I mean for a long time, Clark acted like a minor-aw shucks- doofus compared to how Superman behaved, so maybe giggly ditz is how Kara Danvers behaves as opposed to Supergirl.

I'm not sure where people (here and else where) are getting giggly ditz from, that's not a read I got from this trailer at all.

badpenny
05-14-2015, 05:24 AM
They're definitely going for a Devil Wears Prada vibe between Kara and Cat. My only complaint about the trailer is that they sure give everything away--unless they're going to dispose of her secret in the first episode. Which wouldn't be a bad idea. I'd like to not have a long drawn out bit of business over it.

Bladewind
05-14-2015, 05:30 AM
Something I got a good vibe about was the flying thing. First "I can fly... I think" and then she flies to save a friend. She's not going to get that "I can fly this is awesome moment" on her first flight by the looks of it.
Be a nice change of pace for superheroes in general.

Kyle
05-14-2015, 07:21 AM
Deepest apologies.

I was talking about the You Tube commentators.
I missed your comment with the link as I started reading and stopped at the link itself.

Well, I can certainly understand your post as it regards YouTube comments.

Sorry for my overreacting.

Bladewind
05-14-2015, 07:51 AM
Glad to see we're all good.

That'll teach me to click a link before I finish reading the post...

Back to the topic at hand, I just noticed Dean Cain and Helen Slater in the trailer...

badpenny
05-14-2015, 08:02 AM
Adding to my earlier post, I really hope they do away with a lot of the stuff they posit in the trailer because it's all horribly cliched. If she's up and flying and working for DEO at the end of the first episode, I'll think very highly indeed of the showrunner(s). If, OTOH, they milk that cape stuff, the harried office life, etc. for a major part of the season, my eyes will be stuck in the rolled position.

Horsenhero
05-14-2015, 09:05 AM
Well, they've got to give Calista Flockhart something to do, so I imagine Kara will stay in her employ for awhile (after all, several scenes take place on that rooftop). Not to mention, I think they almost have to maintain the harried office existence for a couple episodes at least. Remove her from the majority of her "normal" supporting cast and the hero becomes unrelatable and this becomes much less of a "coming of age/empowerment" story and more of a "monster of the week". Unlike Flash or Arrow, the majority of the supporting cast here seems to have little to do with her "super" life as far as assisting her goes (aside from providing capes). She doesn't need a team. She doesn't need to train that much, besides practice in the field (apparently), so this leaves one way for most of the cast to interact with her on a meaningful level and that's in her "civilian" life.

Could they pare away the majority of her supporting cast and leave her sister and the general (I want Director Bones if it's the DEO, dammit!) as the primary supporting cast? Sure. It even makes sense from the perspective of pure reason, but I don't think it makes sense with the story they seem to want to tell if the trailer is any real indication.

Charles Phipps
05-14-2015, 09:17 AM
Also, it's Supergirl not "Secret Agent of a Government Conspiracy Woman" which is WONDER WOMAN'S bag.

Supergirl in this respect is the mild-mannered office girl at a magazine.

badpenny
05-14-2015, 09:36 AM
(I want Director Bones if it's the DEO, dammit!)

Haha, that would rock the block. I only remember him from Batwoman, but I love me some skull-head characters.

savijmuhdrox
05-14-2015, 10:12 AM
just watched trailer. i'll defnlee check this out.

it's a leading lady who comes off as a normal woman.

though, ironically, I will have to get the wife to watch it.. and I can tell she will immediately be like "If she doesn't toss Calista Flockhart out the window in Episode 2, I'm out."

What can I say, the woman has standards..

Stormson
05-14-2015, 10:31 AM
SNL makes a skit with ScarJo mocking the possibility of a Black Widow movie being a RomCom. Everyone laughs at how sadly accurate it.

CBS puts out this promo that hits probabaly 3/4s of the same beats. Everyone seems to love it.

Im officially baffled.

mrdent12
05-14-2015, 10:36 AM
Black Widow is an assassin who would be really out of place in that world. Super Girl is more cheerful and takes after the news man/woman heritage of Superman.

Horsenhero
05-14-2015, 04:14 PM
SNL makes a skit with ScarJo mocking the possibility of a Black Widow movie being a RomCom. Everyone laughs at how sadly accurate it.

CBS puts out this promo that hits probabaly 3/4s of the same beats. Everyone seems to love it.

Im officially baffled.

It's just matching character to story. Sure Black Widow wouldn't work in a Rom-Com, she's an orphan who was tortured and molded into becoming a killing machine. Even after being liberated from that life, all she knows is that life, so despite coming to work for the "good guys", her instincts are to lie, obfuscate and kill. She trusts few people and doesn't wear her emotions on her sleeve, except for the rare "I've got red in my ledger" moments and even those can be a charade (as Loki found out).

Kara is a generally cheerful girl with a more or less normal personality, who happens to have powers that allow her to do extraordinary things. Despite her loss so long ago, she's a fairly normal young woman emotionally and intellectually, which means she pursues fairly normal goals...with the odd addition of saving the world.

Different characters. Different stories. Now if Kara started running around in leather, smoking cigars and growling out; "I'm the best there is at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice."...that would be weird.

badpenny
05-14-2015, 04:39 PM
Now if Kara started running around in leather, smoking cigars and growling out; "I'm the best there is at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice."...that would be weird.

Is that the plot of the new superhero show on Cinemax?

Dragonblade
05-14-2015, 10:33 PM
Just saw the trailer. I love this! I really hope they can cross over with the Flash or Arrow. DC is just killing it with excellent comic book shows. Kudos to Berlanti the exec producer of all these shows. He really gets how to build an inter-connected TV comic book universe.

mrdent12
05-14-2015, 11:00 PM
Short of the Flash changing something, I find it difficult to see how the show will fit in the same universe as Arrow/Flash/LoT. Superman obviously is a big deal in this show and has been around for a bit. Arrow or Flash would have referenced him at least once unless there is a time jump. The producers might pull a reasonable explanation out of their hat though, so it should be interesting.

Kyle
05-14-2015, 11:43 PM
I can't find a YouTube link, but comicbookmovie.com has a second trailer up. It's shorter, but showcases a lot more action. Link! (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=120547) There's also a behind the scenes feature.

saint_matthew
05-22-2015, 02:24 AM
Rumor has it that the Supergirl pilot was leaked today on the internets.

Cannot currently confirm or deny this rumor.

saint_matthew
05-22-2015, 06:25 AM
I can now confirm that it has been leaked 6 months early thanks to youtube & you can watch it at [Edit: never mind it's already been removed].

I hope this is a really early cut because aspects of it look terrible.... The costume alone looks as rough as guts, especially the really obvious shoulder pads/fake musculature.

As for the plot, for what its worth, keeping in mind that this is just the pilot, it's not exactly compelling. This looks like another one of those superhero shows where the hero fights no super villains, just this series' own equivalent of Smallville's "meteorite freaks."

If this episode was any indication this looks to be a by the numbers formulaic super hero show in the vain of essentially every other formula based superhero show of the last 15 years. Maybe it'll be one of the good formulaic shows like The Flash, rather than one of the bad ones like Smallville.

Only time will tell.

Stormson
05-22-2015, 08:54 AM
Curious, the exact same thing happened with Flash. Wasn't it touched up between leak and actual airing?

Bladewind
05-22-2015, 09:42 AM
Yeah, haven`t seen it but I would think so. The costumes in the trailer don`t have issues like that...

Der Schatten
05-22-2015, 02:08 PM
According to a few people I know who've seen it, CBS is going to need to re-edit or rewrite some glaring issues with the pilot. Like plot holes you could crash a plane through.

Horsenhero
05-22-2015, 03:57 PM
According to a few people I know who've seen it, CBS is going to need to re-edit or rewrite some glaring issues with the pilot. Like plot holes you could crash a plane through.

Re-shoots are a common and expected phenomena with television, especially serial type shows. Often things get written into later episodes that don't work with previous episodes or plot twists don't work because a character/event re-write was done on a day of shooting, changing how that scene or event relates to other scenes or events that were already filmed.

Filming is also done in a non-linear fashion (all filming using a particular set is done before moving onto another set, regardless of where it may fall in the story), meaning not everything filmed will turn out to make sense in post-production editing, requiring reshoots of some scenes.

People tend to make a big deal out of things that are "business as usual" within the industry.