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Triskavanski
09-18-2014, 12:51 AM
Amongst all the different things I'm working on to try and understand the game better, I've got one idea of a character that uses Paper Magic, similar to Read or Die, though more.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwlMJg3RozV0X1JYQkRCX191NUE/edit?usp=sharing

That is what I have so far, looking for some questions and comments.

The Limited feature might end up just getting dropped on most of the powers and it becomes a complication instead.

Batgirl III
09-18-2014, 07:34 AM
Unless you expect to spend the campaign in Atlantis, I don't see "wet paper" coming up enough to warrant a Limited flaw. It's more appropriate as a Complication.

Triskavanski
09-18-2014, 07:44 AM
Yeah, funny thing is I wasn't actually getting much of anything for having the limit. The only thing that changed in point value after removing it was summoned creatures.

JDRook
09-18-2014, 10:12 AM
Yeah, funny thing is I wasn't actually getting much of anything for having the limit. The only thing that changed in point value after removing it was summoned creatures.
That's one of the things about Arrays: since Origami Creatures is your most expensive power, putting Flaws on any of the other powers in the array is not going to have any effect on the final point cost. Because of this, it's best to only use Flaws that are vital to the concept and not strictly for point-shaving.

BGIII's suggestion of sticking with Complication is a good one. Making "Wet Paper" a -1 Flaw should mean that you encounter that situation roughly half the time in order to make the discount worth it. OTOH, a Complication would only come up when the GM thinks it warranted. And once you are used to the idea of using Hero Points in play, Complications become a much more interesting character trait than Flaws.

Triskavanski
09-18-2014, 10:25 AM
Ah yes. And hero points tend to be a lot more useful than a handful of points shaved off. From the show there is three things that really hurt the paper masters. Water, Fire and Sonic. But then they have a power that negates Sonic, and fire's effect isn't at all like the real world. (Ie, can survive explosions with a paper sphere.)


How would I mix in improved str/agi/fig/dex when used in conjunction with the paper arms?

Am I over using Array?

Batgirl III
09-18-2014, 10:33 AM
Complications are also, IMHO, just so much more interesting from a storytelling perspective. It's always more interesting to read an issue of The Amazing Spider-Man where Pete has to deal with getting to the pharmacy before it closes to pick up Mary Jane's prescription, turn in his assignment to J. Jonah on time so he can make his rent, stop the rampaging Rhino, and he's only got enough web fluid left for one more shot! (Those super science chemicals are expensive!)

Complications are, again IMHO, the lifeblood of the genre. The parts of the story that involve guys in tights thumpin' each other are often exciting, but they aren't why you pick up every new issue of Invincible, tune in each week for Arrow, and look forward to the next Iron Man movie. It's the character development and the way the heroes overcome those obstacles that you can't snkict your way past.

Triskavanski
09-18-2014, 12:25 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwlMJg3RozV0UU5LYmlENTRVYUk/edit?usp=sharing

So something a bit more like this then?